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by ZombieB

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ZombieB
06/06/2010 03:10 pm

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This topic refers to M-1 Health
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I was wondering about other customer experiences at M1.
Two questions:
1. Do you ever negotiate with the girl for HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras, or only the mamasan?
2. Are you always/usually given the option of going BB for FS?
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ZombieB
06/26/2010 11:48 am

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Nevermind.

How about them Piston/RedWing/Tiger/Lions?
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apache2
06/26/2010 06:22 pm

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Zombie Bukowski wrote:
Nevermind.

How about them Piston/RedWing/Tiger/Lions?
The Pistons had good years from the late 80's to the ealy 90's with Daly and the mid 2000 but were never a consistent franchise. The Wings as we know are known as "Hockey Town" are more consistent especially when Bowman was around but now need some rebuilding even though they still make the playoffs. Last Championship the Tigers had was with Sparky Anderson at the helm in 1985. The Lions only gift was Barry Sanders and I still believe to this day that he should of broken Paytons rushing title as he retired at the age of 31 and Payton passed away the same year at a young age, coincidence?
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ruggerman82
07/22/2010 10:08 pm

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Hey Zombie - I've only ever negotiated with the mamasan, Cindy I think was her name. You can go bareback there if you ask for it. A lot of chance so to speak. Have you read any of heathendog's reviews?
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Aa269
09/16/2010 04:17 pm

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Why would you want to go BB? Got a death wish? This place is a mill.....
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carnaljoe
10/13/2010 12:10 pm

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I will be in Michigan next month to visit family. I plan to stop by M1 a few times while I am up there. Can anyone give me some usefull advice? Should I go for an hour or half hour? At my age once I give out one shot I'm done. Plan to take a little viagra so I can fully enjoy my time there, extra shot or no extra shot. I thought $100 would be a good enough tip when you add on the service rate. On the average you can get 1 hour of full service with an escort for $160 to $180 and have her come to your place. I just can't see spending $100 for just a lousy hand job. I'd rather keep the money and take care of it myself. Do I need to put the tip on the table? I prefer to give it to them when all is finished. I figured if they know I live in Florida they won't think I am LE. But maybe I should just tell them I been there before. Would appreciate some advice before my trip Nov. 4th. Love them Asians!
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ruggerman82
11/04/2010 09:37 pm

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Zombie - I've only ever negotiated with the mamasan. I've been offered bb about 1/2 the time. Quite the risk I think. I didn't read your full post the first time.
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ZombieB
12/27/2010 02:46 pm

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Oh wow. I forgot I made this thread. Thanks for responding guys. I was just curious what was up with the policies here and if I was getting unusual treatment. BB has been offered to me every single time and as far as I know that's pretty unusual. I mean, am I really that charming? I was sort of wondering if this was the girls choice or something they were "encouraged" to do by management. Still not sure, but I'm probably worrying about nothing. Oh, and that was a funny and informative post, Apache. Go Lions!
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luving_tongue
01/07/2011 06:46 pm

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I've been offered bb here several times particularly in the ts. Tempting but crazy. Took all my will power to say no (actually had to stop the action and insist on a cover). Wish the world was different as nothing beats that feel. I carry my own condoms now - try kimono ultrathins (available at Walgreens). Pricey, Japanese mfg, but much better than the thick things used by most amps.
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heathendog
02/22/2011 05:57 pm

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I go here several times a year and get BBFSCIP every time, with all girls. If they bring a condom I tell them no. The only one there that uses condoms is the Mamasan and her Lt. There were some rumors that Shampoo gave the Drip, but I've had no issues ever. Am going this week to see the new girl, so I'll be telling of my latest "deposit" soon.
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jlart123
02/22/2011 06:56 pm

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I've been to M-1 two times after reading great reviews but was disappointed both times. The first time I tried to show up without calling and got scolded by the mamasan and told I need to call for appt or show up when they open. I tried again and called and the woman that answered the phone said come by now and that they were "slow" and I didn't need one. I showed up 30-40 min later and was grilled by the mamasan who asked me if it was my first time(I said YES) and finally agreed to let me come in for a 30 min massage because they had a customer on the way who had set an appointment. I paid $50 but had another $200 in my wallet for HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras. All I got was a massage with draping over me by an older not very attractive woman(not the woman at the door). When I inquired about "more than a massage" she said no and asked me if I had been to another AMPs, I lied and said yes and she told me "you go there next time." I am a 29 y/o black male if that matters but my appearance and demeanor is more Will Smith than 50 cent. . I guess my 2 biggest questions are do they have any girls working there in their 20s and what do I need to bring or say to get FS?
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ZombieB
02/23/2011 03:03 am

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Jlart123,

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I'm in my late 20's and white. I was raked over the coals the first time and had to come a few more times before I got really good service. Linda (the oldest girl there at the time) was my only option for a while. I suppose it isn't unreasonable to assume young guys are going to be drunk, belligerent, and possibly a fire hazard. I've certainly known plenty of guys my age like that. Mamasan still often asks me for 200 (firm) for FS when other guys get it for 180. But I've never had an experience as bad as yours. Sorry to say, but I think Tremolo is right. The mamasan might just be racist.

Heathendog,
Looking forward to your next review on the new girl! You are a brave, barebackin' man.
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hiroller
02/25/2011 06:15 am

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Hey Tremolo out of curiosity what is your race and age? Does this help you any at these places?
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jlart123
02/25/2011 01:35 pm

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Yeah I tried M-1 again and got the same scenario. Claimed they only offered 30 mins and I knew I was just going to be out off $50. So Screw M1! I'm going to let you guys enjoy and stick to the escorts(I saw one yesterday) where I can at least see the girl I want to have sex with before I fork over my money. It seems to me that the only true benenfit to M-1 is the BBFS which is certaintly a risk within itself possibly even more so than the risk of getting busted by LE in a sting operation. Maybe when I get more "mature" I will give AMPs another try.
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ZombieB
02/25/2011 06:48 pm

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Tremolo, the BBFS at M-1 is a puzzle to me as well. That's largely why I started this thread in the first place. My concerns were that they were either forced to by mamasan or they already had some incurable disease. But I didn't want to assume the worst.

Regarding jlart123, do you think he should try some of those places in Jackson like Oriental Spa? I know you recommended that to nass9090 in another thread about age. Or maybe just an AMP were racism is not a known issue? I feel really bad that he's discouraged from the hobby now.
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hiroller
02/25/2011 08:59 pm

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Zombie Bukowski wrote:
Tremolo, the BBFS at M-1 is a puzzle to me as well. That's largely why I started this thread in the first place. My concerns were that they were either forced to by mamasan or they already had some incurable disease. But I didn't want to assume the worst.



Is it possible they don't have the knowledge of stds that we do? If they are immigrants from countries that don't have the education we do it's possible they simply don't know how risky it is to have bbfs.

I hope they are not forced to. Kind of reminds me of the slavery thread I started a few weeks back.
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ZombieB
02/25/2011 11:44 pm

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hiroller,

South Korea is a modern country with a strong emphasis on education as far as I know. I suppose it could be due to some cultural difference.

My (limited) impression of S. Korean attitudes regarding sex is that it's bit like the 1950's--somewhat puritanical and naive. I remember a study on chlamydia transmission rates that found only about 24% of sex workers in S. Korea consistently used condoms. Add to that HIV/AIDS prevalence rates of around .1% (the US is .6%) and they may not consider it a likely threat.

I once had a session with Momo (raised in Japan) at M-1 and she was visibly relieved and grateful when I asked for the condom. Momo left M-1 after a short time. Perhaps it is a policy of the mamasan, but one the Korean born girls are used to?

Yet none of this adequately explains to me why so many Korean born providers & mamasans insist on condom use at other parlors.
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jlart123
02/26/2011 04:37 pm

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Perhaps it is just a ploy to get more business and repeat clients. There are so many young girls providing sex for play nowadays on the internet. It seems like it's the hot thing to do now and a girl can rent out a cheap room for 60 bucks a night and make a post on backpage for less than 5 dollars. So in a way unless you LOVE asian women the AMPs kind of become irrelevant unless they offer something you can't find anywhere else, hence the BBFS. Just my 2 cents. But if the BBFS is so prevalent at M-1 to the point of it being expected or offered almost everytime then I can accept the mamasans "preferences" even if I don't agree with them.
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jlart123
02/26/2011 04:44 pm

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Tremolo wrote:
Yeah, it is unfortunate. M-1 could be so much better if mama would loosen up a bit and be a kind person...toward the girls who work for her and toward the clientele.

Yes, I can definitely recommend Oriental Spa in Jackson to jlart123. He's 29 so it shouldn't be a problem really anywhere, even if he looks way younger. Never heard of any problems with racism there either. It can feel a little rushed there sometimes though, so try to go during a slow time of day. The other Jackson Spas are hit or miss as far as quality, but no racism at any of them as far as I know. I've heard that New Era is really friendly, but the girls aren't Asian and I think they stop short of FS there.

Naomi (as well as the mama) at Sunrise is not racist as far as I know.

FYI...I've heard lately that Hawaii Health Spa in Charlotte is really packing them in...as this new girl Micki is a sort of superstar AMP provider from Sun Spa in Warren Ohio. I guess she is really amazing. So, if you don't mind the road trip to the Lansing area it might be a good choice.

Thank you for the recommendations but the problem with a lot of these other places for me is just the distance. I live in Wixom so it's a lot easier for me to drive 20 min down 96 to Southfield and see an attractive black girl for 30 min for $80 to $100 then try out of my way to an AMP and pay $200 or more for essentially the same thing. Also I have lucked up and caught a few Asian escorts who were in town visiting to at least get that experience off my bucket list. Personally, I had no knowledge of AMPs or desire to visit one until I heard the rumours of BBFS offered at M-1 but now that it is clear that is is not offered to blacks I might as well save time, gas, and money because pussy is pussy.
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wagnew0923
04/18/2011 08:42 pm

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My big fear with escorts on Craigslist and Back page is they do not list their price, and I feel there is a bigger risk of getting caught by LE. Anyone know any good escorts for $150 or less
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