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msggrl
02/19/2011 01:06 pm

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WifeLover wrote:


being blunt

good for you

but this is EROTIC MP not "I'm charging $200-300 for a non sensual/sexual massage...be happy with it"

ITS CALLED A SCREENING TOOL! THE MAJORITY OF MEN ARE HAPPY FOR A FUN GOOD FLIRTY MASSAGE FROM A CUTE NUDE GIRL.

I CAN HONESTLY SAY I HAVE ONLY Had 2 complaints
they where cheap assholes who paid 80 and 125 and where clearly told up front of the policy thats the diff between me and them.
i work at many places..

as long as girl is attentive and gives a good massage its not a total loss
IMO

OUR REGULARS DO NOT WANT US TO HAVE REVIEWS (TELL ALL)
THIS GIRL DOES THIS THAT GIRL DOES THAT..
THEY have told us time and time again
THIS PLACE HAS BEEN AROUND OVER 5 YEARS
THEY R DOING SOMETHING RIGHT!
NO IT DOSENT WORK FOR THE AVERAGE HOBBY GUY
IT ACTUALLY FAVORS THEM TO HAVE "BAD REVIEWS"
IT DRAWS ATTENTION AWAY FROM THEM




We get it, you make $800 in 3 hours.

NO I DONT MAKE 800 IN 3 HRS ITS AN EXP

ALL GIRLS ARE COMMISSIONED AND ONLY MAKE A SMALL PART OF WHAT IS PAID

TYPICALLY IF U PAY 200 THE GIRL MAKES 80

We get it, you and the women in the link above think guys who have the audacity of wanting more than a good therapeutic massage for $200 are out of line.

NO I DONT THINK men ARE OUT OF LINE...


Do you know why? Because a non-sexual therapeutic massage from a CMT ranges from $55-80.


NEUROMUSCULAR THERAPIST CHARGE 150-200 NON SEXUAL NON SENSUAL
I KNOW IVE WORKED IN FLORIDA AND OTHER STATES I EASILY MAKE THAT MUCH FOR IT AND TIPPED ON TOP OF IT

DO I THINK EVERYONE CAN AFFORD IT NO ITS FOR A CERTAIN MARKET GROUP THAT CAN

DO I THINK IM RIPPING SOMEONE OFF NO I DO NOT IF THEY ARE HAPPY W THE SERVICE AND IM HAPPY WITH THE SERVICE I GIVE THEM EVERYONE WINS


W THE EXCEPTION OF SUNSET TAN MAJORITY OF THERAPEUTIC MASSAGE AT 60-80 DO NOT DRESS SEXY..


For $200 most guys are going to want more than a crappy massage and a pretty smile.

HE FAILED TO SAY IT WAS NUDE ( IM JUST SAYING)
SKYLINE/SURREAL OFFER CHEAP TOPLESS AND NUDE MASSAGE WE R NOT SKYLINE

For two bills it better be the massage of my life!

W/O REVIEWS Y TOFTT?
U HOBBY MEN KNOW WHAT U WANT SO STICK W REVIEWED PLACES IF U DO NOT WANT TO FALL SHORT.

IF WE WHERE METHOD WE WOULD BE CLOSED THE FIRST DAY WE OPENED



So when we see places like the link the OP provided, their rates, service and bad attitude, naturally there's going to be an adverse reaction to it.


their are good and bad provider everywhere u go....
getting what u want the 1st time at a places does not always happen...


men wonder why thing that happen happen i explain ...y.... btw have u seen a girl named lexy?
msggrl
02/19/2011 01:25 pm

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im going to branch off to another forum!!!!

MiaNoi
02/19/2011 02:18 pm

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I have visited this place on many occasions weather its 3 am or noon always glad i went.
Its fair to say they are similar to forever young.As where you have to see the mamasan before you are allowed to see the other girls provided HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras.In this case hope you see the mamasan.Your next trip will be worth it.Bad side of this place its mixed some offer HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras some do not.You have a better chance of getting HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras if you pay the 200 vs 100.u could try the cheaper rout of 100 then go back 2nd time and do the 200+ tip. Its best to not ask allot of questions .Asking particulars about HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras here the girls will back away like you have the plaque.Ladies are pretty straight forward here.They never initiate anything."Mamasan." once told me its a safety issue.Sucks you had such a bad experience ive never had a bad anything here.YMMV is a fair thing to say
MiaNoi
02/19/2011 02:28 pm

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BTW msggrl

Do not get easily discouraged.You are in a very hard business.I'm sure your hard work does not go un rewarded.I would not want to be in your shoes for even one day. You women put up with allot from some of us assholes!Seems as though you yourself know what you want. its your body how are we to say how you use it to what you charge for it. If they appreciate you they will return. If they do not they will go else where do not take it personally. This business we want everything as cheap as possible and as simple as possible! Thats just how it is.
innergame
02/19/2011 05:24 pm

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msggrl wrote:
im going to branch off to another forum!!!!



It's about time
JDPhantom
02/23/2011 03:09 am

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msggrl wrote:
its very correct to say no the place in the ad is not for the average hobby guy.
IMO the average hobby is looking for the most he can get for the smallest price or am i wrong?



No, you're not wrong. But then again, the average hobbiest isn't a Rockefeller or a Clinton either. We're just average Joes and we need to watch how we spend our money, especially in this economy.

msggrl wrote:
Their is still a huge market for places like these. They have always been successful from my knowledge. take M studio 4 exp they charge 400-500

they charge 200 + 100 tip and u dont get - u have to come back 2nd time 4 HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras i used to work their thats how i know.



That was another place I felt ripped off. Granted, I didn't pay those prices, nowhere near, but I still felt ripped off. Therapist massaged (competently, not greatly -- just competently) and teased and hinted (fairly frankly, I might add) that if I came back, HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras would be available. Stupid me, I did go back -- about an hour later. Saw her in the lobby and she quickly walked away, doing the "I've never seen that guy before and don't want to again" thing. I discussed the situation with another therapist toward the end of that second session and she said, "We don't do that sort of thing here," all nice and snotty.

Yeah, I'll never go there again and I won't recommend it to anyone either.

msggrl wrote:
and their was my fast pass for inst.. many of names of men paid very high prices to see women and did not complain theirs a market for everyone.


I was a member of MFP and, sorry, but for the most part, the prices charged were pretty standard for the local market. Sure, some charged a little more, some a little less, but that's going to happen in any market.

msggrl wrote:
NEUROMUSCULAR THERAPIST CHARGE 150-200 NON SEXUAL NON SENSUAL


That's highly specialized training, too. For something like that, I'd expect to be paying a bit more. Sorry, Msggrl, but you're pretty much comparing brain surgeons to a neighborhood barber here.

msggrl wrote:
ALL GIRLS ARE COMMISSIONED AND ONLY MAKE A SMALL PART OF WHAT IS PAID

TYPICALLY IF U PAY 200 THE GIRL MAKES 80


Wow. And you ladies actually put up with that? Makes me wonder who's typically getting ripped off more -- the customer or the girl.

msggrl wrote:
btw have u seen a girl named lexy?


Which one?

WifeLover wrote:


...this is EROTIC MP not "I'm charging $200-300 for a non sensual/sexual massage...be happy with it"

...a non-sexual therapeutic massage from a CMT ranges from $55-80. For $200 most guys are going to want more than a crappy massage and a pretty smile. For two bills it better be the massage of my life!


Here, here!

Derpdydoo wrote:


I would say anyone in any field is looking for the most for the smallest price. I would buy a Ferrari for $1 and won't pay $100k for a beat up Ford.

The I guess you would call them "non-average" hobby guy, I would call a fool and there is a saying about fools and their money.


Why do I feel like you're talking at me when you say that, Derpydoo?

Derpdydoo wrote:
...P.T. Barnum had a saying (credited to him) about said fools.. There's a sucker born every minute!


Geez, man, now I know you're talking about me! Sheesh! *g*


JDPhantom
02/23/2011 03:14 pm

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In all fairness, I should clarify just how the therapist at M Studio teased or, rather, how I perceived it. Part of it was the hinting at HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras -- topless and nude are all that I kind of remember (hey, it's been a few years, cut me some slack! *g*) -- but it was the way she was saying it, in one of those really low, quiet, "I've got a secret proposition for you" voices. And then there was the light touch. I didn't ask for it and she didn't go anywhere inappropriate (unless you count my butt, but if you do, then you're a bit of a massage prude and need to go elsewhere *g*). All of it combined was enough to get the libido going into overdrive yet trapped in the garage, so, to me anyway, that qualified as some major and skillful teasing.
msggrl
02/24/2011 09:28 pm

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wanderer

if u where referring to M studio those girls have been known to be a bit snooty but their cute!




about our pay..

it cost allot to run this type of business. advertising can be 5xs the rent of the location.

the best way i put it is

walmart makes billions right but what do they pay their workers 10 an hr?BS!

cos charge 200* pay the girls 80-100(hi end)

escort agencys are the worst they expect u to do fs and get paid as low as 50! those r the total scam places.

but if you are like me u understand all businesses have expenses and by those exp being paid i have a job that supports me and i get tips so on my side i dont complain. as long as im treated well where i work .......other wise i quit faster than the door can close behind me.


working solo is scary!

ive already had bad things happen when their where 8 people and 5 treatment rooms at an establishment....


so i def like having other people around until i get to know and trust a client their always good and bad w every job. so if i have to take a bigger pay cut because of safety its worth it!
WifeLover1
02/24/2011 10:19 pm

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msggrl wrote:
wanderer

about our pay..

it cost allot to run this type of business. advertising can be 5xs the rent of the location.

the best way i put it is

walmart makes billions right but what do they pay their workers 10 an hr?BS!

cos charge 200* pay the girls 80-100(hi end)

escort agencys are the worst they expect u to do fs and get paid as low as 50! those r the total scam places.

but if you are like me u understand all businesses have expenses and by those exp being paid i have a job that supports me and i get tips so on my side i dont complain. as long as im treated well where i work .......other wise i quit faster than the door can close behind me.


working solo is scary!

ive already had bad things happen when their where 8 people and 5 treatment rooms at an establishment....




you throw the biggest pity parties ever ......You can say what you want, but you're still not going to convince anyone to happily continue to fork over $200,250,300 1hr massage with no or limited HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras. Sorry.
msggrl
02/24/2011 10:23 pm

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if i was trying to convince id work allot harder
msggrl
02/24/2011 10:27 pm

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men on here prob wont go to places like these

they are not their market anyways.

u still never answered a q i had for u not that its important


but im pretty sure i have seen you before.

Y because the user name fits you well and the attitude matches it.

but thats enough said about that. i dont fully out people on here i do have some soft of respect.

i only verify in pm...

if ur not that person i think u are i apologize in advanced.. we might not ever know and trust me it wont kill me if i never find out
WifeLover1
02/24/2011 11:49 pm

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msggrl wrote:


u still never answered a q i had for u not that its important




what's the question?

msggrl wrote:

but im pretty sure i have seen you before.

Y because the user name fits you well and the attitude matches it.

but thats enough said about that. i dont fully out people on here i do have some soft of respect.


Impressive you can tell who I am by the screen name. But we do agree on one thing, its not cool to out people or even imply that you might.

I'm not trying to pick fights with you, I just have a very different take than you on expected service vs price. After all, this is a hobby.
JDPhantom
02/25/2011 04:57 am

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msggrl wrote:
men on here prob wont go to places like these

they are not their market anyways.

u still never answered a q i had for u not that its important


but im pretty sure i have seen you before.

Y because the user name fits you well and the attitude matches it.

but thats enough said about that. i dont fully out people on here i do have some soft of respect.

i only verify in pm...

if ur not that person i think u are i apologize in advanced.. we might not ever know and trust me it wont kill me if i never find out


Msggrl, are you talking to WifeLover, to me, to someone else here?

And, personally, I don't care how cute a woman is. If she cops an attitude, even just a tidbit of snottiness, I don't want anything to do with her or her establishment.
Cities Boy
02/25/2011 10:25 am

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Why keep beating yourself up Msggrl? Yes, the overwhelming majority of us here will never pay high prices for services with no HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras.
abbyrubz
02/27/2011 09:10 am

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WifeLover wrote:


being blunt

good for you

but this is EROTIC MP not "I'm charging $200-300 for a non sensual/sexual massage...be happy with it"

We get it, you make $800 in 3 hours. We get it, you and the women in the link above think guys who have the audacity of wanting more than a good therapeutic massage for $200 are out of line. Do you know why? Because a non-sexual therapeutic massage from a CMT ranges from $55-80. For $200 most guys are going to want more than a crappy massage and a pretty smile. For two bills it better be the massage of my life!

So when we see places like the link the OP provided, their rates, service and bad attitude, naturally there's going to be an adverse reaction to it.


You're absolutely right. Massage rates average about 50-80 per hour. Average erotic 60-100 per hour & average full service is 150-300. I have been doing erotic massages for aprox 10 years now with alot of success. Here is my philosophy; I dont raise my rates or require tipping for "HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras." I think it's tacky and unprofessional to negotiate $. I stay affordable so my clients can leave feeling fulfilled and not ripped off. This usually results in them returning often. I can share a shower or do a body shampoo (free) I want to keep my clients happy, so they return for more. Personality is EVERYTHING in this business!! I genuinly enjoy what I do. In this business "you get what you pay for" rarely applys. It's more like a crap shoot!!
JDPhantom
02/28/2011 04:07 am

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Abby, I think I'm becoming positively smitten with you *g*
abbyrubz
03/02/2011 05:14 am

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Wanderer wrote:
Abby, I think I'm becoming positively smitten with you *g*


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