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by FJ4me1

FJ4me1

11/13/2010 10:45 am

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This topic refers to Pine Spa

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I went to Hana Spa last week, 8055 CMB. I saw a girl named Kelly / Su Ni. She was a true 10 K-girl – face and body just perfectly gorgeous.

However, service was….less great. In fact, I have mostly stopped patronizing the business in San Diego, for many years now. It used to be you could get a 10-minute yank for $55, which seems reasonable. Most jobs don’t pay $330/hour, so I thought that is a fair price. But now….you pay $60 just to get in the door, and then the rip-off is just beginning.

This place reminded me why I don’t go in SD anymore. Mama-san reminded me on entry that $60 did “not include the tip.” I asked how much was the tip, and she just shrugged.

So…fast-forward to the room, I was laying there naked, getting touched by Kelly. After about 5 minutes, she starts playing with my cock, and asks how much I can pay. I said (truthfully) I only had another $40 with me. She looked disgusted, and said she would yank it, but next time I should bring more.

She was horrible at giving hand job. She choked my poor boy until I thought he would have an aneurism, and when I politely asked her to lighten up, instead of just complying, she said “I AM doing it softly.” OK, excuse me, I guess you know more about how my cock feels than I do. How presumptuous of me.

Then I tried to finish using her feet (I have a bit of a foot fetish sometimes). She said that would require more money. Now that is a first for me….usually hands vs. feet, nobody cares. BJ and fucking cost more, but handjob/footjob are pretty interchangeable. But she was just acting like – “hey, I’m not going to give you a great time this visit, so bring more money next time.” She asked for $100 next time. I don’t know if that is for fucking or for a footjob, but if I paid $160 for a footjob, I should be put in an asylum.

Anyway, my boy finally puked his guts out in her hand, and I got dressed and left. Overall I left feeling ripped-off, and a bit sore.

So, if you are willing to pay any price to interact with a stunningly gorgeous true-10 runway model with a cold attitude, this is your place. But otherwise…meh..

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apache2

11/13/2010 05:37 pm

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To begin, San Diego is considered above average in pricing. There has been several reviews where the hobbiest has paid $140 for FS and $60 for the house fee($200 total). You would be better off doing your hobby in Escondido. Depending where you are in SD, Escondido is about a 1/2 hour northeast. There are a few good EMP's in Escondido and Asia Spa and A-1 Health Accupressure are the best 2. Sure you wont get a young true beauty but I'm sure you'll find that that will fit your needs and in turn, save yourself $50-$60.

Getting back to your adventure to Hana Spa, IMO she was cool to let you slide with just $40, as that is the usual tip at a great majority of your HJ places away from San Diego. Now when you asked for a "Foot-job", IMO "you took it a step too far", as she let you get away with a $40 HJ in a pricey territory. Most providers will take a slight cut on their tips but you also should remember "Not to have your cake and eat it too". Now when she brought up to bring $100 next time, it could be that she might try to cover for this loss or that price includes the "foot-job fetish but who knows. Some providers will include a free fetish but some will not. Independent providers will charge extra for all fetishes.

I have a "gut feeling" that you're new to this hobby, you need to do your homework and be more patient. There are some "Unwritten rules" to go by in this hobby and one of them is "DON'T EVER ASK MAMASAN HOW MUCH A TIP IS". Mamasan is there just to keep things in line, collect the house fee and make sure the hobbiest is satisfied. The providers job is to pamper and please the hobbiest without being taken advantage of. I know, you're going to say that you weren't satisfied but was that your fault or the providers fault? It was your fault as I already explained. In SD, a HJ is usually $60(clothed provider with touching)to $80(naked provider with touching). A BJ will run from $80-$100 depending on the provider. FS will more likely be $120-$140. These prices are just the tipping and then you have the house fee.

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Brahmabull

11/13/2010 06:53 pm

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Im sorry, you got the service you were willing to pay for. You made it clear what your price point was and she met it. Bottom line.

40 is a fair tip for a HJ in most markets (NOT all and certainaly not some areas of CA that I have visited).

But if you go into a spa expecting the therapist to cater to your fetishes, you better damn well bring $ and be a generous tipper. Their job is hard enough as it is, none of us would want to do it. They know what is normal and what is a fetish, now there is nothing wrong with being into a fetish, such as feet, but realize while it may be popular online, there is a smaller percentage of actual people who may be into it as well. So if are expecting people to be open to it in this hobby you better be willing and ready to compensate them for it.

You may see no difference in hands and feet because that is what you like, but there is a difference. You wouldn't expect her to let you finish on her face or breasts for 40 would you? If so I think you need to hobby more and get back to reality.

Also this is a review, it should be posted as a review not a forum thread.

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FJ4me1

11/14/2010 12:57 pm

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I am not new to this hobby at all...I have done it literally hundreds of times. Maybe the problem is I am too old to this hobby, and reminiscing about the days when it was $35 for everything (back in the early 80's).

Yes, I understand that this place is probably typical for San Diego now. That is exactly why I greatly reduced my visits in San Diego for the past 5-6 years or so. I just don't find it to be a good value versus other locations. Maybe if I didn't ever have chance to travel I would be stuck with this market, and since a hard cock knows no budget, I guess I would get used to it. But, with other opportunities....I don't go here as much.

I also find that in the last 30 years industry pricing has significantly outpaced inflation, and I don't quite understand why. For example, CPI rise from 1983 to now to 2009 would make $35 then equivalent to $74 now. But you can't get that same service for $74 today. And back then, the attitude was better also. The method was NOT to play the hard-cock-hostage game, and get as much as possible each visit.

So anyway, yes I understand this specific place is probably normal nowadays. I am just bitching and whining about what passes for "normal" these days in SD.

Regarding FJ, I was not commenting on my opinion -- I was commenting on factual observation. It is a FACT that I have asked for this many times in the past, and up until recently nobody asked for extra money. Then suddenly they started seeing it as opportunity to ask for more. I don't have a strong opinion on what is fair, I am just saying the attitudes have changed.

Regarding where to post, sorry that was my first post and I didn't realize the distinction. I will look for it and do it correctly next time. Thanks for the pointer.

Oh one other comment - they had one twist that was new to me. They ask you to make up an ID number, and keep an information card on each individual customer. I suspect it is a combination of safety and also revenue optimization....i.e., if you pay $x this time, you will never get away with less than $x in the future. They will know your bottom line. Clever. Too clever for me.

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FJ4me1

11/14/2010 01:06 pm

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Oh, and thank you for the tip about Escondido. It is a bit out of my way so I never tried there. Next time I feel the urge and don't have other options, I will try it.

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apache2

11/15/2010 01:11 am

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FJ4me, on the discussion with Escondido, there is another Spa there that I didn't mention and it's called Escondido Health Spa(EHS). Not only do they have above average looking providers that range from 30-49, they also have a TS(Table Shower). The total damage is $150($50 for the 1/2 house fee and $100 for the tip).

IMO, this hobby doesn't have a age limit but one might have to make adjustments as you mentioned. If making adjustments mean that you're going to save a good some of money and be happy, then do it, I know I did. As mentioned already, Escondido is your best bet with the 3 EMP's I mentioned(Asia Spa, A-1 Health Accupressure and Escondido Health Spa). There are several EMP's in the IE where you can get a FS and a house fee for $100 total($40/$60) but you might spend about $30 in gas. Inland Empire is about 90 miles north of San Diego. The city of Bloomington is probably the most convenient. Sure the cock knows no budget but the "Head on top needs to be wiser than the flame(head) below".

In the last 30 years everything has changed and it's just the way of life. When I started working at the age of 16 in 1981, gas, merchandise, services, wages and the cost of living has gone up but you just have to "roll with the punches"...

In regards of you combining your review, comments with a post, IMO, I think you were so involved on "getting this off your chest" that you went a little overboard but hey, everyone makes mistakes and we're human. By the way, I like your expression on "My boy finally puked his guts out in her hand

".... I'm going to leave you a Private message in your box on where you might be able to get a FJ by a provider.

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Brahmabull

11/17/2010 09:40 pm

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FJ4me, I started hobbying in the mid-80s, and I can tell you the tipping prices are pretty much the same. I did say the house fee has crept up in my post above, and as you point out, that is inflation.

The service level is NOT what it was in the 80s and 90s in a lot of places around the USA, you are absolutely dead right about that. But there is are reasons for that. I will give you a few.

There are way more customers now then ever before some are just complete jackasses and take advantage of the ladies and the service.

There are way more spas then there ever were back in the 80s and early 90s (in MOST areas, where LE has not cracked down), this means many new people working in the hobby and many who do not have the same desire to provide quality service. This is typically due to spa owners rotating girls too frequently they build up NO loyal customer base and feel no attachment to any area, client or spa.

Quality of the average customer has deminished(simalar to point 1) so has the service.

I do not like it, I would love it to go back to the "good old days", but I certainly can see why it has happened. It is unfortunate, which is why finding a jewel out there is such a treat.

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JAMES0071

01/03/2011 06:03 pm

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I agree about rotating girls all the time does not build up loyal customers. To many new girls do not have much experience wheather your in LA or Chicago or LAS VEGAS/HENDERSON. My first visit to an AMP was in 1970.Service wasnt to good either then. They might be alot more AMP spas in USA but certainlly they had alot more places to visit a woman for serice in the past in a house or apt. There has always been so many working girls in vegas since the 60s. All the guys refered to where they hung out as a HOOKER BAR. Taxi drivers always knew where to take you to visit girls in a house. I found at that time i got much better service regular in apt/store front places ran by americans and prices were very reasonable with girls actual ages from 18 to 25, MUCH MUCH younger than AMP girls MGR. The MGR were i went was 27 and they had so many girls to pick from, over 30 most tiems i was there. We never ask for a massage, the girls knew why we were there, and all the HJ (hand jobs), BJ (blowjobs) and FS (full service). There may be limits on how much service management will allow.">extras were given as long as we were nice. Some places today in an AMP treat you like a king when you come in, if your a good customers,others are not friendly and ignore. I would love to go back to the good ole days too !!!

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foxydave

05/15/2013 10:47 pm

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apache wrote:

To begin, San Diego is considered above average in pricing. There has been several reviews where the hobbiest has paid $140 for FS and $60 for the house fee($200 total). You would be better off doing your hobby in Escondido. Depending where you are in SD, Escondido is about a 1/2 hour northeast. There are a few good EMP's in Escondido and Asia Spa and A-1 Health Accupressure are the best 2. Sure you wont get a young true beauty but I'm sure you'll find that that will fit your needs and in turn, save yourself $50-$60.

Getting back to your adventure to Hana Spa, IMO she was cool to let you slide with just $40, as that is the usual tip at a great majority of your HJ places away from San Diego. Now when you asked for a "Foot-job", IMO "you took it a step too far", as she let you get away with a $40 HJ in a pricey territory. Most providers will take a slight cut on their tips but you also should remember "Not to have your cake and eat it too". Now when she brought up to bring $100 next time, it could be that she might try to cover for this loss or that price includes the "foot-job fetish but who knows. Some providers will include a free fetish but some will not. Independent providers will charge extra for all fetishes.

I have a "gut feeling" that you're new to this hobby, you need to do your homework and be more patient. There are some "Unwritten rules" to go by in this hobby and one of them is "DON'T EVER ASK MAMASAN HOW MUCH A TIP IS". Mamasan is there just to keep things in line, collect the house fee and make sure the hobbiest is satisfied. The providers job is to pamper and please the hobbiest without being taken advantage of. I know, you're going to say that you weren't satisfied but was that your fault or the providers fault? It was your fault as I already explained. In SD, a HJ is usually $60(clothed provider with touching)to $80(naked provider with touching). A BJ will run from $80-$100 depending on the provider. FS will more likely be $120-$140. These prices are just the tipping and then you have the house fee.

Thanks for the heads-up about Escondido. Never tired it, but hell, it is not that far away and certainly worth a shot. Appreciate it!

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old20_2000

03/01/2015 03:09 pm

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TheROCK wrote:

FJ4me, I started hobbying in the mid-80s, and I can tell you the tipping prices are pretty much the same. I did say the house fee has crept up in my post above, and as you point out, that is inflation.

The service level is NOT what it was in the 80s and 90s in a lot of places around the USA, you are absolutely dead right about that. But there is are reasons for that. I will give you a few.

There are way more customers now then ever before some are just complete jackasses and take advantage of the ladies and the service.

There are way more spas then there ever were back in the 80s and early 90s (in MOST areas, where LE has not cracked down), this means many new people working in the hobby and many who do not have the same desire to provide quality service. This is typically due to spa owners rotating girls too frequently they build up NO loyal customer base and feel no attachment to any area, client or spa.

Quality of the average customer has deminished(simalar to point 1) so has the service.

I do not like it, I would love it to go back to the "good old days", but I certainly can see why it has happened. It is unfortunate, which is why finding a jewel out there is such a treat.

I'm sorry but I call BS, I've been doing this hobby since the mid-70s and as recently as the late 90s early 2000s HJ was 40, BJ was 80 and FS was $100 at the most. While busts in some areas have made the costs go up some idiots paying $140 for FS is what is really driving costs up. Why should a girl do you for a decent price when the next John in the door will pay 40% more? If you doubt it consider you can still get a BJ for $80 in a lot of places but try getting FS for less than $140.

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Time2

03/06/2015 10:10 pm

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San Diego is 1 of the highest rate markets in the state in my experience, especially the FS AMP spots. But, the famous FS AMP just north of there, spacing on the name at the moment tho I did a review of it I think a few years ago is cheaper than the actual San Diego FS AMP spots.

Found it: ' Spa-Escondido-California.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.eroticmp.com/Asia-Spa-Escondido-California.htm

Guess I only posted member comments about my experience there and didn't submit a full review. It was fun and as I recall it was cheaper than I'd expected, tho rates may have increased since I was last there awhile back.

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